Susquehanna Boxcar Never Dies: Reviving This Stale Meme with 30Haul’s Old Drivetrain!

Good ol’ Susquehanna Boxcar.

What started as a quick-build meme using whatever I had dug out of my (then, in late 2021, still not yet unpacked) totes full of motors turned into… something that just kept evolving and getting funnier. After doing suspiciously well at Motorama 2022 using only surplus inkjet printer head motors for drive, it got switched to brushless power in 2023 and then kept on doing suspiciously well at Dragon Con.

Zip tying a Taro root to the thing in 2022 was funny, but the Papaya of Redemption really kicked off the wave of “Boxcar must always use a quasi-phallic vegetable, or an analogue of one, as a weapon”

Always having been a hacked-together build, by 2024 the thing was really showing its technical debt. It was tacky to service, which cost me fights at both of those events. Much like old Uberclocker builds of yore, I didn’t really care how it went together as long as it did. And so, after burning out 2 of the drive motors at Dragon Con 2024, I decided you know what? It’s time to SPEND MONEY on it. (I mean, ignore the fact that I spent money on it from the start even though I said I wasn’t going to, as if the first thing I did after declaring I wasn’t going to spend money on it was ordering a bunch of UHMW strips from McMaster)

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First order of business is to throw a bunch of random motors into CAD. The idea was to reuse parts I already own from 30Haul – I’ve owned a tote of the last 30haul’s wreckage ever since its final NHRL event in 2021. I sold the chassis parts and some drive parts to various people – some of whom have even managed to vaguely rebuild and remix it. I retained much of the intact drivetrain consisting of 42mm HobbyKing SK3 motors zipped to P61 gearboxes, as well as the gears and sprocketry that made up the lifter.

A couple of other wildcard motors also made it into this bucket of brain pressure washing grime. One thing I wanted to do was upgrade the hammer/lifter/eggplanter motor. The bot used a Harbor Freight 18V drill gearbox that I hot-modded (“Harbor Freight 68239 LS Swapped.iam”) with a 3536 size outrunner motor. While it “worked”, it had durability issues from the much greater torque input the motor was capable of; primarily, the age-old robot community drill motor hack to secure the drill’s clutch ring kept blowing out because the casing would actually flex too much.

So there’s some surprising motors from the past in there. One of them was sizing up a BaneBots P80 – that model I put together for old 30Haul ages ago. Another one is Overhaul 2’s never-implemented Banebots P80 based shifter gearbox, a design I ripped off from the DeWalt 3-speed gearbox next to it that forms the foundation of the DeWut motor. All three are of the same size class, 2.5 inch across size, and it was more of a matter of what actually fits lengthwise.

One thing that was pretty decisive was the drive motors, which I decided will be 30haul’s drive gearboxes. So while I was still mullling the lifter/hammer motor decision, I did some starting detail design on the drive. The layout will no longer be a motor geared to each wheel, but just a pretty regular direct drive rear and chain drive front.

The real innovation here is just that I am copying some homework from NHRL bots that have done it this way, and fully embedding the drive gearbox into the thick UHMW frame rail. It’s just drilling a big center hole and four tie rod thru-holes and trapping the gearbox inside. For the front, I’m making a “fake P61” block that uses the same bolt pattern so I can recycle the drilling template.

The wheels modeled are basically the same cut up gum rubber foam I’ve come to favor, on 3D printed hubs, to which plate-cut sprockets are attached. It’s a divergence from the “gearhubs” of the previous iteration, but not by much.

The fake P60 will be tied to the frame with some tee nuts for wood, another bit of a throwback for me. UHMW is easily shaped by woodworking tools, so it was one of my favorite (and only) robot materials back in the day.

Around this time was when the real innovation started. Namely, I decided to give a brushless DeWut swap a try. Most because this was the only way I could fit it, and also because I wanted a quick and easy to switch between “hammer” (fast gear ratio) and “lifter” (slow gear ratio).

If you’ve been in my circle for a long time, you’ve probably heard “Brushless DeWut” thrown around forever now. With modern cordless drills all having become “unibody” i.e. there’s just no more separate gearbox and motor combo inside the plastic shell, making a drive motor conversion is a lot more involved. And with the robot drive market having moved towards bespoke solutions instead of repurposing industrial and commercial motors (*shakes cane*) there was simply no market-based incentive. I’ve bought 4-5 models of brushless drill over the past few years and they all follow similar thought patterns.

All this entails, though, is stuffing a 42mm outrunner motor into the back side of the existing DeWut conversion.

Nothing substantially exciting to be seen! I took the original DeWut model from 2011 or something and just cut the back of it off, then made a motor mounting face. The whole thing will be a 3D print using carbon fiber filled nylon, probably with a few laps of carbon fiber thrown in using my Markforged machines, to keep it rigid in the barrel section.

Here’s a cross section look through the assembly. A 42mm size motor has a 5mm shaft just like the DeWalt motors did, with a pressed pinion. I didn’t want to have to cut or modify the motor shaft, so the depth of the motor mounting face was set by measuring where the motor shaft reached the gearbox first stage, plus a bit of clearance.

From here, the design cooked pretty fast. I wanted the weapon motor to be serviceable without taking the entirety of everything apart like last time, so I decided on a bottom-drop sheet metal bracket. By “Sheet Metal” I really mean 3/16″ thick aluminum. At this point in time, with the likes of SendCutSend and OSHCut offering express and precise sheet metal service (This message brought to you by neither of them, by the way, I just prolifically use both) there’s just no more excuses.

Historically I’ve been turned off by sheet metal assembly techniques because the Chinese guy running the press or brake machine was me. Very rarely could I actually manage two parallel bends or get anything to line up, much less get the bend radius right (Ever notice that your average cheap sheet metal combo machine has all sharp dies instead of radiused, and assume you’re working with gauges thin enough where that just about doesn’t matter?)

But I’ve made plenty of assemblies for other people now where a half dozen large bent and formed parts come together with almost dowel-pin precision. It was time to make some for myself for once!

“Draw the rest of the fucking bracket” happened, but really all that is is adding the mounting features of the DeWut.

To allow for a bottom drop while providing support for the distal end of the motor output shaft, I just made a quick “pillow block” that will live with the bracket and holds two flanged ball bearings.

The quick drop service basically implied moving to a gear drive instead of chain drive. I whipped up another set of 12 DP spur gears, much like what I’d use in Uberclocker and 30Hauls of yore. The difference is this time, I’m doing them “laminated” style from the same 3/16″ aluminum that will form the motor bracket! This saves some cost using those online services since there’s fewer material setups.

To compensate for the slightly weaker nature of a bunch of thinner gears in a trenchcoat (with their unfinished sides and irregular contact patterns) I’m just letting the assembly be wider than a typical 30Haul gear. I’ve typically used 1/2″ thick material in 6061 or 7075, but I made space for up to 4 wide in this thickness (3/4″ thick).

To couple the gears to the, uhh.. end effector of choice, I’ll be making another welded hub. This time, it’s a 1.5″ diameter thick-walled steel tube welded to the socket. The outer diameter of the tube will have a keyway machined, basically turning it into a big keyed shaft. The gear segments slide on and are retained by a snap ring, my former worst enemy but now favorite nation. I’ve also backed down to three gear slices for now since I was very much running out of horizontal space.

In another episode of “Move onto something else while I haven’t finished the first thing yet”, I began thinking ahead to where to put the internal parts. With the two larger motors now occupying space on one side, an even bigger motor now occupying the central section, and the need for clearance to swing the Eggplanter, I faced a challenge of where to put things like motor controllers and batteries.

Also it didn’t help that the Brushless Rage is the size of a bus compared to modern BLHeli and AM32 enabled ESCs, but… already have several.

The solution? Turn the damn assembly around! There was now no longer a reason to try to keep everything next to the drive motors. The motors create a convenient gap in the middle for something stick shaped, so let’s make them the “front”. I’ll just make a bottom armor plate and probably a 3D printed dust cover for them. This freed up a contiguous volume to arrange my bus parking lot!

I began “flowing the bracket” around all the parts. This configuration of Brushless Rage and battery offered the most remaining volume to pack wiring as well as a 3rd ESC for the weapon motor. For that one, I was going to use one of my surplus SimonK swap ESCs (specifically the old Spider ZTW 80 amp, of which I had a bundle). Is this robot just a means to dispose of dieselpunk-era parts?!

I also dispensed with the separate bearing holder bracket. The DeWut motor shaft will be supported by a bearing in a pocket in the frame rail. This approach has a better load path because of the forces not having to first travel through the weakest part of the aluminum bracket. However, it does turn the “drop out service” into a “slide then drop” because the motor shaft will need to scoot out of the bearing first.

That’s why I said I was running out of horizontal space above – the DeWut had to now be positioned slightly away from the other frame rail so I can slide it back around 1/4″ after removing the screws.

It was time to get building! First off, I started off with testing the fitment of the DeWut conversion. Stay tuned for more Susquehanna Boxcar adventures at Dragon Con and Motorama!

The Long Hot Summer of Spool Bus: That Time My Brake Lines Caught On Fire

So there I was one fine (a.k.a last) summer collecting some parts for the MOST RECENT PROJECT CATCH (never before seen on this site! Yet!) with Spool Bus, having been recently been re-HVAC’d such that I no longer had to risk dehydration simply puttering it over to the shop or a car meet. The application called for the same model E4OD transmission that I retrofitted into Vantruck as part of IDIocracy whereas Spool Bus and pre-op Vantruck used the older C6 3-speeder with overdrive pods.

For the van chassis, the transmission had to be a narrow year range for drop-in compatibility – 1987 to 1991, during which both the F-series and E-series used shifter linkage rods. Transmissions made after 1991 switched to a shifter Bowden cable and began relying on electronic speed sensors instead of the mechanical speedometer gear. On top of that it had to be for the diesel bolt pattern, because Ford handily lost the bellhousing wars to GM. The transmission would need to be dismantled to change that shifter input, so I wasn’t really keen on making an off-year work.

I stalked a whole bunch of regional yards and found a candidate around 60 miles away. After explaining once again, to another junkyard, that no I wasn’t here to sell the vehicle to the yard, I embarked on my merry way with a new-to-me 1991 E4OD transmission from a dismantled diesel box van. (They were so enamored with the project that I also got the shifter links and doodads for free!)

Now, to get home day to day, I usually pass by one or two water treatment facilities located close to the river where the highways cross. For some reason that day, the area smelled extra spicy and chemically as I approached. Fine, I thought. Maybe they’re doing some kind of pool bombing operation or deep cleaning the poop mash tuns.

Except then the spicy chemical smell began visibly collecting inside the cabin. Remember, Spool Bus had working HVAC (ok, just H-V and no A/C) again, so it was pulling the stank from somewhere. It was then that I realized the chemical smell was that of burning plastic and PVC wire insulation, not something typically pumped en-masse into the poop fractionation towers. I wonder what’s on fire this time, said I, having become numb to having vans catch on fire for some reason.

My mistake was hitting the brakes to pull over and inspect, which caused a massive smoke cloud to suddenly puff out from the hood vents and into the cabin. This means whatever was on fire was being fed by brake fluid being pumped onto it like a really cursed oil heater burner box.

If we’re keeping score, at this point I’m going 70 mph on an interstate, while potentially on fire, without a way to stop and do something about it.

So what did I do in this absolute situation? Drove the bitch straight home, what else.

I didn’t bother stopping (well, not like I had a substantial choice in the matter) and after being confident that the electrical fire was no longer an issue, manually dropped into 2nd gear and then simply crawled home slowly (Woe is me, for I am old truck, beset by mechanical problems! Hark, my hazard lanterns!) using the parking brake pedal with the unlock handle pulled out to modulate final stops at red lights. I count my blessings that a Ballistic Nissan Altima did not suddenly dot product itself with me.

I am also keenly aware that none of this would have been possible in a new app-car with an electronic parking brake caliper and fully electronic transmission. Honestly, part of my love for old decrepit mechanical things is the ability to force many fallbacks and partial solutions instead of being locked behind software-defined hard fails.

Well, now that I made it home and am clearly not writing an article for The Autopian about how Spool Bus burnt down on the side of the highway, it was time to do some battle damage assessment.

It was immediately apparent once I popped the lid as to what happened. On a lot of older trucks with retrofitted trailer brakes, there is a third brake line that is tapped from one of the master cylinder ports, typically the rear circuit. This extra hydraulic line is routed inside the cabin to a trailer brake rheostat that is actuated by the pedal movement, and that is how power gets passed to the electric trailer brakes.

So people just tend to route these lines wherever and Spool Bus came with a particular lazy routing where it just went up and over the master cylinder and punched through the firewall somewhere on the driver’s side corner. What basically happened is at some point, the battery cable that very rudely touched the master cylinder fell out of the old broken plastic cable tray above it, and on my trip home, finally wore through its cracked 40 year old insulation and grounded out through this trailer brake line.

In doing so, it probably heated up and sagged, also cutting through the spring strap holding the master cylinder lid closed.

Check out these ends of the trailer brake line and lid strap! They look like they’d been used as stick welding electrodes which….. isn’t far from the truth.

The probably red-hot trailer brake line melted through a bunch of things. The plastic vacuum reservoir serving the power brake and HVAC selector system (as diesel engines do not natively produce manifold vacuum, a vacuum pump hitched to the engine pulls these little bubbles down for stuff like the cruise control actuator and vent selector), basically all of my appended wiring to bring back the overdrive unit and air purge solenoid valve, and a fair bit of the main engine wiring harness.

This hole was where the whole thing grounded out. Spool Bus just has a bunch of these random holes drilled into the firewall with random stuff pulled through it, including wires (including some of my wires too so I’m not entirely morally clean, to be fair).

So, in short, Spool Bus was a time bomb on multiple fronts. The battery cable had probably been resting on the trailer brake line for a while, and if that didn’t eat itself, any one of the other wires could have grounded out on the sheet metal and melted. At this point, enough was broken that I basically had to redo a lot of the wires from scratch and replace all the vacuum canisters anyway, so it was time to just commit to taking it offline and doing everything properly.

Like look at this battery tee clamp. That’s 30+ years of being bent and pried and hammered back into the right shape, and it was so wallowed out it needed a spacer sleeve. All of this I’d be replacing with new wire and new connectors.

Doing the teardown also uncovered other funny things, such as the fact that this auxiliary vacuum canister had rusted out probably some time into the Clinton administrations. Spool Bus always had a very mediocre brake vacuum assist strength, The fact that one of the vacuum cans is just not (a failure to suck, if you may) could explain a lot.

The diesel chassis came with these extra brake vacuum reservoirs They looked very much like repurposed coffee cans with a fitting attached. No treatment of the metal meant the thing basically crumbled in my hands, and almost every one I’ve encountered in the wild has been the same condition.

As a random aside, I found out while unbolting the battery cable from the starter motor that one of the bolts holding the solenoid on had fallen out and the other was loose and handing on by 3 threads. Again, something something time bomb how was it even running.

The closest screws I could find that fit were some random ones from a bed frame I took apart. Quality repair!

So, to start with, here are the three large wires I had to reproduce. Two battery grounds and the large parallel wire that goes between the two batteries and to the starter motor and glow plug contactor.

Not a very difficult challenge with my stash of leftover 2/0 size wire, both spare stock from IDIocracy and stuff I harvested elsewhere. I just had to pick up a few crimp-on clamps and ring terminals.

Here’s a view of the new tee junction that goes on the primary battery. It serves the glow plug circuit as well, and has a tap for general vehicle 12V power.

Replacement cables prepared and ready! This was the easy part, honestly. Everything else had to happen before I could install these battery cables. Specifically, I had to replace the master cylinder, run a new trailer brake line into the cabin, and then repair all of the melted accessory wiring. Oh, and replace the vacuum bubble and line that melted too.

I was never a fan of this kind of old school cast iron master cylinder. I’ve only know them to leak from the lids because the metal rusts and no longer provides a good seal. It turns out they make exact replicas but in aluminum, so that will at least alleviate the rust problem.

Here’s the wound that the blazing brake line cut into the vacuum reservoir!

I cut back and re-flared the service brake lines because the new master cylinder had different threads in the ports and needed new flare nuts anyway. Not only that, I discovered the fittings had a fair bit of corrosion at the flares too, something you definitely do not want to see.

The new aluminum-bodied master cylinder fully installed. The little block on the right is the tee junction where the trailer brake line comes out.

I decided to do something about those infinite “Rust Hole or Drilled Hole?” firewall holes. These are a few different TPU 3D-printed bushings. I cleaned up most of the holes to one of two diameters, 1/2″ or 3/8″, and made press-in bushings to fit.

Here’s what they look like! Now I can have my pick of any number of different Rust-Or-Drilled holes to route the replacement accessory wiring through.

Also, you did NOT see this. There is no massive gaping rust hole entirely through the inner cabin wall and fender apron wall. It definitely does not pour water through here if I drive in the rain. What an absurd concept.

I’m routing the replacement battery cable and OEM engine harness through a large wire loom which will be retained to the upper firewall flange with some straps. This is the same approach I took for Operation IDIocracy in Vantruck. The OEM wiring tray that crosses this area is, by now, always completely deformed, heat-damaged, and otherwise deteriorating.

What the driver’s side looks like now with replaced battery cables and hangers.

I cut back and re-spliced the two addenda that I put in – the overdrive shifter solenoid and the fuel system air purging solenoid. The new wires live inside looms, and pass through the now protected Random Rust-Or-Drilled holes!

I also cleaned up how the starter wiring climbs up the side of the engine bay, as long as I had everything taken apart.

The last operation was to create a trailer brake line that went into the cabin roughly where I needed it. This was done largely using eyeballing a small ruler I held at various orientations to get an idea of where it was going, plus or minus a bit of slop length.

The new trailer brake line runs under the master cylinder and then under the auxiliary battery tray. It should no longer be directly carrying battery current.

It also tees in coming from the bottom, so the whole system will “self fill” if I just keep the master cylinder topped off. I wasn’t sure how you were ever supposed to properly bleed these mechanical trailer brake controllers, because they didn’t have bleed ports. Even if you just left the fitting in them loose and squeezed fluid out with the pedal, the way they’re oriented there would still be an air bubble at the very end! I guess it just didn’t matter enough. The answer to many of my Car Questions about “How did people back then do X” has been “well they just didn’t”

Final closeout time! I fixed the hanging reflective tape, don’t worry.

As I wrapped up the repair on a Friday night, my first inkling was to go get some food to road test it all. I stopped by the local gamer bar (which, sadly, has since closed because the area it’s in is one of those overpriced developer hell projects). I’m proud to say Spool Bus can stop once more, and doesn’t try to MIG weld using brake lines either. Also, in checking over everything on the fuel line side, it turns out the front tank aerating was caused by a giant crack in an old fuel hose I didn’t replace the first time.

Really the only small-but-irritating problem staring at me each time is that the oil pressure gauge itself is broken, or the sensor wiring is broken somewhere inside the dashboard. Spool Bus might still have a ton of stuff wrong with it, but I think by the end of the summer it was at least in the upper 20th percentile of all trucks found in the South: Runs, drives, turns, stops, has lights, has wipers, isn’t profusely leaking one or more fluids, and you can even listen to crazy AM radio hosts. What else do you need really?!