Ghettopost II.5

The second half of that aluminum billet was just sitting on the mill with the “make something using me to end your pains” look.

And so I did. Now introducing the other Ghettopost: a cutoff tool holder!

For the uninformed, the MITERS lathe has no parting /cutoff tool holder. As addressed in my Intro to Ghettomachining post, the only way to get your part off the stock you started was by hacksaw. Some would dismount the part and hacksaw it manually. I usually just slammed the hacksaw on the stock, with the spindle running, and slice it using power.

Either way, it wasn’t fun, nor particularly safe. And so with the relative success of my Ghettopost II from two days ago, I decided to complete the square blocks of aluminum and make a cutoff tool holder.

Using lessons learned from the turning tool holder, this build went much smoother and with more accuracy.

Sketching the outlines of the finished part in lieu of a full drawing helped alot. This was the other half of the giant aluminum billet that I bandsawed in half. First step was to shorten the height to 1.5″. For this, I used the giant shell mill, doing it all in one .400″ deep pass.

After the block was planed down to height, it was time to mill top features. The “stairstep” shape is to hold the tool as well as a clamping bar thing to lock it firmly into the holder. The large hole was started with a 13/16″ drill and then finished off to size with a boring head, just like last time.

After the top features were machined, I turned the block around to drill the horizontal clamping hole. Then around to another side to mill the Slit of Clamping. Finally, I flipped it over and cut 5/16″ out of most of the underside.

The reason for doing this is because the cutoff tool is a very tall and narrow tool. I sized this post according to the remains of a 3/4″ cutoff blade that I found. Because its cutting edge is correspondingly 3/8″ higher than the highest I accounted for. As a result, the tool has to sit lower than the flange on the 1″ post I turned.

The solution was to raise the contact surface of this holder to account for the increased height of the tool. The cutout is 2 inches square, which overlaps the 2 inch diameter flange and allows the little step at the bottom to hang off the edge of the compound slide.

After the holder body was done, it was time to make the clamping bar. This would have taken a few minutes if I had some 1/2″ steel square rod. Unfortunately at MITERS, everything is around when you’re not specifically seeking it out, but I couldn’t find a single square rod near half an inch.

I had to settle for a very odd-looking .5″ thick, 1.25″ wide bar. After taking a few test cuts, I realized it was stainless steel. Oh boy, work hardening. Slow and steady was the answer here, and I somehow trimmed this chunk down to 2.5″ long x .625″ wide x .375″ thick.

The complete clamping bar, with holes drilled. The first hole was accidentally drilled for a 5/16″ clearance because for some reason I thought I was using 5/16″ screws. Fortunately, it does not affect anything, as the tool will point out the other way.

The clamping bar reaches over the tool bit and has a little lip on the edge to prevent it from tweaking sideways.

And thus, with some added hardware, the cutoff tool holder was complete. Here’s a video of the inaugural cut, through nothing less than quarter-inch walled, 2″ diameter steel pipe. It was great.

This tool holder uses 1 5/16″ clamping screw instead of two 1/4″ ones (okay, one 1/4″ one.) I might rebuild the other holder, or at least rethread it, for a 5/16″ screw.

Now that I’m done making tools, I can start BUILDING ROBOTS! To complete the full complement, I’d have to have a dedicated solution for a boring bar. However, most of those fit in normal tool holders, so it’s not a priority.

Oh, here’s a picture of the ass end of a liquid nitrogen tanker truck. They go around every week refilling massive (20+ foot tall) tanks of LN2 around the labs. Shortly after I took this, the driver came around and chased me away.

Ghettopost II

I finally cracked.

I got absolutely fed up with the toolpost on the MITERS lathe tonight when it, despite my best attempts to prevent it, loosened on a cut in some steel pipe (for Pop Quiz’s motor can) and chipped the head off one of the new carbide-tipped bits.

So I spent the next 8 hours after that designing and building a new toolpost to replace the 80-year-old-steel-on-a-stick business current on there – it’s called a “lantern” toolpost, and is just about the biggest pain in the ass ever contrived by man.

After browsing through some designs for DIY toolposts, I settled on a simple one-tool, height-and-angle adjustable design. I decided to not go totally balls-out and try to make a real quick-change one. Rather, I just wanted something that didn’t have 96,105 degrees of freedom, and was alot stiffer. With the amount of time I spend messing around at MITERS, it was worth the effort, but not too much. We also have no dovetail cutters.

Off we go.

The first step was to make a post. Luckily, a strange plumb-bob-like thing made of steel, with a 2″ body and a 1″ stem, was hanging around in the metal bin, saving me from having to turn an entire 2″ steel round down to 1″. Some quick passes to cut off the threads on the stem and I was in business.

Here’s a great picture of blue steel curls. This is probably bad, but ignorance is bliss and so are cool colored chips.

But now you can laugh at the amazingly shitty finish on the post. Also notice the T-nut machined from some handy steel bar, and the 1/2″ bolt that holds everything together.

After this picture, I put the post back onto the lathe and smoothed it down with some sandpaper. The OD on the post is one inch.

Next was the tool holder itself. I found a giant aluminum billet which someone apparently tried to bore through and stopped midway, and cut a chunk off on the bandsaw.

I finally got to play with the big shell mill. Quite a change from the little endmills, as it was consuming aluminum at quarter-inch depth & full width as fast as I could crank the handle. It also left a brilliantly smooth finish.

I carved the block down to 2.5″ x 2.5″ x 1.5″ thick.

In another episode of new tooling experimentation, I decided to try out the boring head to make sure the holder fits snugly over the post. This 1.01″ hole goes all the way through, enabling the holder to pivot on the post and be clamped down anywhere needed.

I decided to accomodate up to a 3/8″ bit for now. The slot was positioned such that the top surface of a 3/8″ square bit would be aligned with the rotational axis of the chuck. Since we mostly have 5/16″ and 1/4″ square bits, it means the tool should never “bottom out” in normal use.

Five set screw holes will eventually hold some big cap screws to lock down the tool bit. For some reason, I drilled them all the way through when halfway would have been enough. Does not affect anything.

Center test. It passes quality control.

Here, the “slit of clamping” and clamp screw holes have been machined. The top half is threaded, the bottom half is a loose clearance, both for 1/4-20 cap screws. I could have used a single large screw, but couldn’t dig up a 5/16″ or 3/8″ cap screw of the needed length. All threaded holes are 1/4-20.

The robot gods had to intervene somewhere, of course, and it was on the very last hole tapped for the night. There wasn’t enough to wrench it back out, so I ground the broken tip down flush. One clamp screw *should* be enough. There is space between the two screws to add a third if necessary.

Here’s the height adjustment in action. Another cap screw threads vertically through the holder and pushes against the post, allowing precise levelling of the bit. Once that’s set, the clamp screws are tightened down and the whole thing locks up solid.

It allows clean height and rotational angle adjustment, plus the ability to “hold” settings between tool changes. One twist doesn’t affect the entire setup, unlike the lantern post.

The bottom of the holder can be raised up to 1/2″ off the post. If it is up this high during operation, something has gone wrong. With a 1/4″ bit, it should be around 1/8″ up in order to cut on the centerline. Adjustable to taste, material, feed rate, bit style, etc…

The finished product. It really should be steel too, but I couldn’t find a big ingot of steel lying around. Big aluminum works also.

Notice the slot cut at a right angle to the original clamping slot. This was done after I realized that about .75″ worth of aluminum was not going to give way to a single screw’s clamping pressure. So I had to weaken my own part on purpose with the slot to enable the clamping to be more effective. The tool holder tightened down easily on the post after this quick mod.

Time for a test run, in a steel round. This was a really ballsy cut – .03″ depth, but at a somewhat slow power feed (196 TPI?). About half this depth was the “danger zone” for the lantern post. I wanted to take it further than I would normally do so just to see what would happen. It took the cut fine. By the way, the sudden shake near the end was when one of those flaming hot steel curls hit me in the nose.

In summary, 3 tools to change a bit (original lantern post wrench, a vise grip, and a 7/16″ box wrench) down to 1 (one 3/16″ hex wrench), over 9000 degrees of freedom down to 2 (height, angle), 99% more predictability, independent DOFs.

So what’s next? Hmm, now that I have a grasp at how this works, maybe it’s time for a cutoff tool holder. I’m seriously getting fed up with wielding a hacksaw on my pretty finished parts, too.