{"id":70,"date":"2007-09-29T22:35:49","date_gmt":"2007-09-30T02:35:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?p=70"},"modified":"2008-11-05T13:44:18","modified_gmt":"2008-11-05T17:44:18","slug":"snuffles-retired-revisited-reloaded","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?p=70","title":{"rendered":"Snuffles: Retired, Revisited, Reloaded"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"left\"><strong><em>Propositio Prima<\/em>: <\/strong>It is wholly possible to put together an extremely powerful and efficient personal electric vehicle using common hobby-grade equipment for under $400 in total. Depending on the requirements of the individual, this amount can be drastically less.<br \/>\n<strong><em><br \/>\nPropositio Secunda<\/em><\/strong>: The best way to learn about something is doing it.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Propositio Tertia<\/em>: <\/strong>Boston sidewalks suck ass.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">\n<p align=\"left\">\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 512px; height: 384px;\" title=\"This could be the start of something... uhh....\" src=\"\/pics\/sc\/sc_64.jpg\" alt=\"This could be the start of something... uhh....\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">It was certainly the most fun impulsive build I&#8217;ve ever completed. What began as a desire to mount a giant brushless motor on <em>something, anything,<\/em> turned into a foray into the world of exotic power systems, electric vehicles, battery technologies, and electronics engineering. After I finally learned how to control the motor&#8217;s power, it became a great local transportation device. However, after a month of operation, I&#8217;ve decided to pull the plug on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?page_id=18\">Snuffles<\/a>.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Actually, it sort of pulled its own plug, but I was the root cause. The pot-to-R\/C interface board pretty much completely shattered over the course of several trips around Boston. This just shows that I needed more support on the board itself. The most important thing, though, is that <strong>if you want extreme performance, electric will triumph over internal combustion<\/strong>. This was known to me for a long time, but only by building Snuffles did I experience firsthand the power curves of a giant electric motor.<\/p>\n<p>Too giant, actually. The 3.5&#8243; diameter brushless airplane motor was utter \u00c3\u00bcberkill for such a small chassis. I couldn&#8217;t stay on the thing the first few times. Gradually, I learned that I could only stay on if I give it a really good kick start and then <em>slowly<\/em> ease the throttle in. More practical performance can be had with a motor significantly smaller &#8211; perhaps even in the 40mm range. The 70&#215;50 motor of Snuffles would be slightly powerful even for a bike.<\/p>\n<p>The successful execution of what amounted to a prototype and proof of concept therefore begets refinement and improvement. Recently, I have exercised the power of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\" target=\"_blank\">Google<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\" target=\"_blank\">pedia<\/a> to perform more in-depth research on in-wheel electric motors &#8211; that is, slamming all the drive components <em>into<\/em> the structure of the wheel itself. This opens up space that would other be used to house drive components and lets you&#8230; well, use it for something other than drive components. Like cushier seats. I had used integrated motors before with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?page_id=10\">Pop Quiz,<\/a> which had a motor built into the blade. It worked well for the amount of quality non-control I put into it.<\/p>\n<p>And so this is where the next chapter of my obsession with giant brushless motors will start. Now that I have membership at the <a href=\"http:\/\/hobbyshop.mit.edu\">MIT Hobby Shop<\/a> and am working with the <a href=\"http:\/\/media.mit.edu\">Media Lab<\/a>, I have access to just about every weird manufacturing process available. Over the past few days, I experimented with designing wheelmotors for Snuffles. The goal of the design was to pack the motor into the confines of a 125mm scooter wheel such that minimal modification of the rest of the structure is needed (the only mods being, for example,  drilling extra wiring access holes.) The real &#8220;inspiration&#8221; for this madCADing was my&#8230; uhhh, ravaging of several large copy machines (<a href=\"\/pics\/after.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Example picture<\/a> from earlier in the year). For those of you who don&#8217;t know, large copiers tend to have rotating-can brushless stepper drive motors.<\/p>\n<p>I drew up two motors in Inventor. One is a conventional ironcore &#8220;outrunner&#8221; motor as built by R\/C hobbyists around the world, using parts from the copier. The other is a more radical <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&amp;q=axial+flux+brushless+motor&amp;btnG=Google+Search\" target=\"_blank\">axial flux<\/a> ironless motor which is used in high performance, high efficiency motors and generators. For narrow applications such as the scooter wheel, an axial-flux type motor seems to make more sense for space efficiency.  However, I was just as successful in shoving the copier stator into the wheel.<\/p>\n<p>Here are some pics.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/pics\/sn_wheelmotor.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 128px; height: 125px;\" title=\"Too many screws makes me a sad panda.\" src=\"\/pics\/tnsn_wheelmotor.jpg\" alt=\"Too many screws makes me a sad panda.\" width=\"128\" height=\"125\" \/><\/a> The outside of the axial motor. Actually, they both look sort of like this. To mount the motors, I have to drill out at least one hole in the wheel mounting locations on the scooter frame to accomodate running wires outside (since you can&#8217;t really get power to something like this without wires). A hollowed-out screw will be used so the shaft can be fastened while providing access to the wires.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/pics\/sn_wheelmotor2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 124px; height: 128px;\" title=\"Unfortunately, I actually have to wind the coils.\" src=\"\/pics\/tnsn_wheelmotor2.jpg\" alt=\"Unfortunately, I actually have to wind the coils.\" width=\"124\" height=\"128\" \/><\/a> Here&#8217;s a shot of the inside! The coil shapes are obvious stand-ins, since I have yet to figure out how to draw an odd-shaped coil in Inventor. Nor do I intend to, since that&#8217;s over the top. The coils stay stationary, and a hole is drilled crosswise in the dead shaft to give wire access.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/pics\/sn_wheelmotor3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 128px; height: 74px;\" title=\"To special-order wedge shaped magnets just for this build would cost more than everything else combined.\" src=\"\/pics\/tnsn_wheelmotor3.jpg\" alt=\"To special-order wedge shaped magnets just for this build would cost more than everything else combined.\" width=\"128\" height=\"74\" \/><\/a> Two of these magnet rings are used, one on each side of the windings, to give the best concentration of magnetic flux. This part rotates, attached to the wheel sidewalls. I had to &#8220;composite&#8221; smaller magnets together into bigger ones, since not everyone makes 3&#8243; diameter flat motors with 14 magnets (read: I can&#8217;t buy the right magnets stock)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/pics\/sn_wheelmotor4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 128px; height: 126px;\" title=\"If I use 5 mags in a row, I get 100% coverage. But then I can't hold the motor together. What a dilemma, eh?\" src=\"\/pics\/tnsn_wheelmotor4.jpg\" alt=\"If I use 5 mags in a row, I get 100% coverage. But then I can't hold the motor together. What a dilemma, eh?\" width=\"128\" height=\"126\" \/><\/a> The inside of the conventional motor. In the end, only a weird combination of metric and english unit parts made everything align and space correctly &#8211; otherwise, things were always too far apart, too close together, or some other anti-three-bears condition. Four magnets group together into one bigger magnet, and there are again 14 of those.<\/p>\n<p>To understand why I&#8217;m using 14 magnets, one must understand the concept of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.torcman.de\/peterslrk\/Wickel_arten_eng.html\" target=\"_blank\">LRKs<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/pics\/sn_wheelmotor5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 119px; height: 128px;\" title=\"Why can't they make 5\/8 inch bearings narrower? Why? WHY!!!?\" src=\"\/pics\/tnsn_wheelmotor5.jpg\" alt=\"Why can't they make 5\/8 inch bearings narrower? Why? WHY!!!?\" width=\"119\" height=\"128\" \/><\/a> Here&#8217;s the outside of the conventional motor with one side plate removed. In reality, there will be little amber copper windings wrapped around the stator arms. Or big ones&#8230; I hope to either use giant magnet wire to push as much current as I can through it, or use a multitude of tiny wire strands in parallel. The latter achieves better volumetric packing.<\/p>\n<p>When will I build it all? Nobody knows. Unfortunately, I have these stupid things called classes.<\/p>\n<p>However, I hope to integrate this with the research I am helping the Media Lab with &#8211; which involves, of all things, light electric vehicles. So watch this space!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Propositio Prima: It is wholly possible to put together an extremely powerful and efficient personal electric vehicle using common hobby-grade equipment for under $400 in total. Depending on the requirements of the individual, this amount can be drastically less. Propositio Secunda: The best way to learn about something is doing it. Propositio Tertia: Boston sidewalks [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,5,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-70","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mit-boston","category-project-build-reports","category-snuffles"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=70"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=70"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=70"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=70"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}