{"id":5255,"date":"2021-08-14T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-08-14T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?p=5255"},"modified":"2021-08-06T22:03:05","modified_gmt":"2021-08-07T02:03:05","slug":"the-summer-of-ven-operation-exhaustive-measures","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?p=5255","title":{"rendered":"The Summer of Ven: Operation Exhaustive Measures"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Time for another throwback to the &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?p=5070\">Post of Everything<\/a>&#8220;! As you might recall, Mikuvan had a little boo-boo on one of my mountain romps:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>The entire exhaust path from the axle-clearing bend back fell off in late May when I was on the Tail of the Dragon. Yes, fell off. As in the person behind me had to dodge it.<br><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I last redid the exhaust <a href=\"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?p=4477\">on this very site back in 2017<\/a>, but I guess just a few years of winter road salt will do that to you. I had to zip that exhaust together with clamps in the parking lot in a day, so it was never really that well put together anyhow. To do it again, I challenged myself to make a fully welded path with a proper way to disconnect it at the downpipe if I were to have to change it again, how they say&#8230;. down the road. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Remember, despite what this site may seem to recently indicate, I am fundamentally <em>not<\/em> a &#8220;car guy&#8221;. I had to do some research on what technologies existed out there for connecting exhaust pipes besides impact-gunning a U-bolt clamp down. I settled on using V-band clamps, as they seemed both statically determinate once attached and relatively easy to work with, versus say flaring the tubes or welding on independent flanges. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I began collecting a few parts online such as the 2.25&#8243; V-band flanges and bands. I got the piping itself just from auto parts stores for now &#8211; just regular ol&#8217; &#8220;aluminized steel&#8221;. I&#8217;m sure this will last <em>just as long<\/em>.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In doing the same research, I got some 309 alloy welding wire to make the join between the stainless steel V-band flanges and the mystery ferrous exhaust pipe. I otherwise had plenty of regular ER70 wire. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv493.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv493-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>So one night I decided to go ahead and drop the rest of the exhaust out and start measuring things up. Due to my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.etotheipiplusone.net\/?p=4656\">brute force surgery<\/a> on the downpipe flange to replace the mismatched nuts with big 17mm-headed M10 bolts, I was actually able to pull it off easily. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv494.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv494-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I can&#8217;t say the same at all for the rest of it. Natural Bostonian Loctite made getting everything else off an exercise in a lot of hammering and impact driving. I mean, not like I was trying to keep this or anything, but even separating that downpipe connection was a ton of effort.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv495.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv495-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The first adaptation step was turning the roughly 1-7\/8 sized (or 50mm, perhaps) downpipe into the 2.25 diameter needed for the V-flange. I simply flared a 1.75&#8243; to 2.25&#8243; adapter slightly and slit the downpipe to shrink down its OD slightly. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv496.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv496-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I fixtured and tack welded the other end with V-band flanges to get an idea of how it&#8217;ll go together.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I then smashed the downpipe adapter onto the downpipe using my previous &#8220;flare&#8221; and &#8220;compression&#8221; fit and a hammer. The fit was tight enough that I went ahead and installed it back on the exhaust manifold, and adjusted the angle of the adapter tube to point as straight backwards as I could visually line it up. That means the flange is as straight as possible to alleviate any other bending. I then tack-welded it in place.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv497.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv497-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Step 1 completed! I fully welded the downpipe to the adapter after making sure the fit was good. This one was a little blobby because I had to be careful not to pierce through the old, thinned downpipe steel. I kept the voltage low and made two passes, and also had to close up the slits I made to let the downpipe compress into the adapter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv498.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv498-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Next order of business was to measure the old axle hump dimensions and replicate them in the new piping. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Notice one little detail here? The 45 degree &#8220;turndown&#8221; at the end of the new setup isn&#8217;t actually a turndown tip, it&#8217;s just another piece of 45 degree bend. I was just going to cut it off to make my own turndown, as at the time, Pep Boys was out of 2.25&#8243; turndowns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv499.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv499-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>On the new tubing it was much easier to make a clean weld all the way around. In fact, I think I found 120-volt Limewelder&#8217;s calling: lightweight tube fabrication.  I mean, it&#8217;s all you can really use a 120V welder for anyhow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv500.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv500-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The workpiece was getting long enough now that I was having to come up with more and more creative ways to fixture it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv501.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv501-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I worked from both ends for this operation. First, I dummy-fit the downpipe, the V-band connection, and the flex pipe. Then I independently hung the main exhaust path where I wanted it, so I could take a measurement of how much gap there is between them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv502.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv502-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>A little more Creative Fixturing later and I now have the entire &#8220;downpipe-back&#8221; exhaust path completed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv503.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv503-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>And here it is! Not a single U-bolt clamp. I dunno, I think my next step might be to learn how to bend straight tubes well. I&#8217;ve seen people do intricate &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=exhaust+pie+cut&amp;tbm=isch&amp;source=hp&amp;biw=1920&amp;bih=927&amp;ei=Io4MYfWlNbWZwbkPrMeWoAY&amp;oq=exhaust+pie+cut&amp;gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIFCAAQgAQyBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB46CAgAEIAEELEDOggIABCxAxCDAToECAAQGFBnWOsJYNELaABwAHgAgAFFiAHkBpIBAjE0mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&amp;sclient=img&amp;ved=0ahUKEwj1vs6enZvyAhW1TDABHayjBWQQ4dUDCAY&amp;uact=5\">pie cut<\/a>&#8221; bends, but that&#8217;s several pay grades above how hard I am willing to neckbeard for something like this. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv504.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv504-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>And now installed in place with the band tightened. I&#8217;m a fan of this setup, as I could conceivably (dunno why I would, but&#8230;) swap this out at any time for something else. It&#8217;s hung in the center with the flexible hanger seen in an earlier photo, and then attached at the very back by the trailer hitch like last time:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv505.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/etotheipiplusone.net\/pics\/mv\/mv505-mid.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Admittedly, my custom &#8220;turndown&#8221; is a little too turnt down,and I was afraid of stubbing it accidentally on a curb or parking brick, so I trimmed it up further not long after this install.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My thoughts? I&#8217;m not planning on becoming an exhaust bending master, but I now know the capabilities of my shop. Vantruck is likely next on the list for exhaust work, as it&#8217;s had the same exposure to salt up north and I&#8217;m itching to add some stacks to the thing some day. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Time for another throwback to the &#8220;Post of Everything&#8220;! As you might recall, Mikuvan had a little boo-boo on one of my mountain romps: The entire exhaust path from the axle-clearing bend back fell off in late May when I was on the Tail of the Dragon. Yes, fell off. 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