Beyond Unboxing: K2 Energy 12v Lithium Iron Phosphate Lead-Acid Replacement Bricks

Whoa, it’s back! Another episode of Beyond Unboxing, the series of random curiosity-driven posts by me which has so far shown light (literally speaking) on the inner workings of a few shady motor controllers. This time, I explore what is going on inside a commercially available generic lithium ion based “lead-acid replacement” – a battery made of a bunch of lithium iron phosphate cells hiding inside the shell of a standard-size lead-acid battery, with (or….without?) a battery management system to make them act like a plain lead acid battery.

Why would you want such a thing? Reduction of weight, longer lifecycle and shelf life (1500-2000+ charge cycles compared to 500 or less), no lead or acid, and higher power density and efficiency under high discharge loads, among other things. First, a little bit of philosophizing and rationale, though:

I’m looking at them as a possible prepackaged lithium ion battery solution for hobbyist & amateur electric vehicle construction – it’s a solution that is less white-hair inducing to suggest to people than “Oh, you buy this shady hobby lithium ion battery with no hard shell or output protection and use this rather complex multi-purpose charger to charge it, occasionally making sure to use the ‘balance’ function so your battery doesn’t explode”. While that solution is perfectly workable for someone with some technical ability or experience in the field, a plug-and-play solution can reach a wider audience.  I can reasonably assume that the people I see day to day in the engineering departments can handle such instructions as “use this battery charger on this setting and don’t plug it in backwards”, for instance, but from experience with the average curious audience member at the Maker Faires who wants to build a vehicle, it is not something I would suggest immediately without gauging their technical experience more.

Batteries are one of the last finicky items on the list of cheap & repurposed EV parts that we have compiled here over the years – I consider the problem of motors and controllers to be well-solved, especially with things which are coming down the pipe locally, but the answer to “What battery do I use?” has always been sort of difficult. The first response is the one stated above – hobby equipment and soft, plushy lithium pouch cells. Workable? Absolutely. Unforgiving if you are an idiot or just don’t pay attention for a second? Definitely. The second class of answers usually centers on chopping power tool batteries, e.g. DeWalt 18v XRP or 36v lithium ion batteries, which are nice because they already come with the charger for the hapless drill or saw you are about to dissect.

For example, the DeWalt DC9360 36v pack, popular with electric bicycle hackers, is only 2.3Ah and $150 (about $2/Wh), not including charger, but you either have to find an interface for the proprietary DeWalt drill connection or modify the battery/solder discharge leads yourself. They are by far the closest to plug-and-play generic battery solutions I’ve seen yet, though. In terms of modern Li battery solutions for small vehicles, there’s a clear trend between cheapest but highest user experience required (hobby and R/C batteries, chargers), and most expensive but plug and play.  There’s always the classic fallback of nickel cadmium or nickel metal hydride batteries – easy to charge, easy to use. But as it turns out, a good NiMH pack is actually as expensive, if not more expensive, than a lithium battery of the same watt hours these days. It would seem that the magic Chinese manufacturing cloud has largely moved towards producing cheap lithium.

Now, the other big question is, do I really want everyone to be scurrying around on Chibikarts? Probably not, but one step in pushing the construction of electric vehicles as a…… vehicle…. for engineering design education (I’m going to use that pun so much it’s somehow going to end up in my thesis, just watch…) is making sure that more people can do it, and there exist many different starting points and “upgrade paths” as you go. It’s similar to what happened to the robot fighting/combat robots community that I’ve been part of since the beginning of it all for me over 10 years ago: Starting out as a niche sport for people with tons of money and expertise with access to expensive tools, and gradually having commercial solutions and clever hacks for common problems emerge and letting more builders participate.

Anyways, rant over. Onto the relevant subject matter.

A product exactly like this, the A123Systems ALM12V7 module, is what powered this year’s 2.007 EV section to victory:

They are pretty awesome, I’ll admit. Externally accessible ATO fuse, automatic charge cutoff, automatic discharge cutoff too. These were pretty much foolproof, and fainted like Pokemon when the fuse blew or they were overdischarged. Really, that was the word we settled on describing it – when the battery shut off its outputs due to undervoltage or fuse tripping, a brief application of charging voltage would wake them right back up.

But what I found disappointing about them is that nobody else can get them. We were lucky to get them as a sponsorship / donation, but just typing “ALM 12v7” into Google shows alot of press releases, datasheets, and articles, but no product. This is consistent with A123’s (and most American companies’) position of not dealing with the public directly, something which kind of irks me a little – no matter how much I love the fact that they are an MIT-affiliated battery company that regularly throws prototypes and QC line rejects at us for our own consumption, it’s not reproducible in a setting which is not us. Kind of hard to test your hypotheses then, huh?

They are not the only producers of these lead acid replacements, though. In fact, here’s a whole page of them.  And another.  And that’s just two of my favorite shady Chinese back-of-the-truck battery dealers, out of many! It’s my firm opinion that A123 has already lost the game here – when the 12V7 finally hits the market, they will be seen as just another player in the game, not the player or the leader.

As with all Chinese products, I viewed the generic SLA replacements with a healthy skepticism. I’ve already observed how the A123 modules behave under “out-of-spec” charging and discharging conditions, but I also understand some of the engineering and testing that went into them. The Chinese modules? Not so much. Thus, even though I knew of their existence for a long time, I hesitated recommending them to people. For all I know, they could be just cells in a box.

I was lucky enough to come upon some “class droppings” recently, in the form of these guys:

As far as I know, a 2.009 team purchased 2 of these units for a project last fall, but they were unused. They were found sitting in the Course II teaching laboratory and conveniently hijacked to run the 2.007 tables this year for a little while. Afterwards, they were moved back to the graduate student nest. My interest in them fell to a low point after finding out they were pretty well sealed – the A123 brick prototypes we got last year still had removable shells for testing purposes – and I just figured these were the same thing inside, or somehow knocked off of A123.

Renewed interest in their internals came during a battery search for a new variant of Chibikart (to warrant its own discussion later). So, last night, I decided to crack one open just to see what was going on.

The module above is sold by K2 Energy, which I can’t quite tell from their website if they’re a front for a shady Chinese operation or not, but who cares?

update!

A representative from K2 Battery actually wrote to me in response to the above:

“K2 is a Nevada corporation founded by myself and 5 other partners in 2006.  Most of the technical group, myself included, came to K2 from other battery companies, where we had been developing and manufacturing phosphate-based cathode materials.” -K2 Battery dude

Well there you have it!

end update!

The funny thing about it is, if I search ‘K2 lead acid replacement” or “K2B12V7EB” , the only things that show up are places selling them! It’s kind of a negative A123 problem – I can’t find anyone who’s used them in depth, dissected them, dissed them in general, or anything. They exist. In product form. That’s definitely a sign that something needs poking internally.

It’s interesting to note that these come in two forms – there’s an “EB” version which, according to the short shopping site blurbs, has an internal BMS, and the “E” version which does not. Presumably the latter is literally the box of cells of legend, but here I had an EB version, so it was a chance to see just how BMS-y it was.

I had Shane randomly select one (of two…) to be sacrificed to the scooter gods. Next was figuring out how to crack them open – I didn’t want to do that literally, since I did want to use them as batteries. I settled upon a more dramatic but significantly cleaner solution:

If there is one image which I should not post on the Internet, it is this one. Please, everybody, do not mill your batteries.

I positioned a thin slitting saw right on the green-black plastic seam which is cemented together very thoroughly. I made sure to do very light and shallow passes, poking with a screwdriver each time to see if I broke through the welds – if the top moved, then it was a sign to stop increasing the cut depth and move on to another side.

Whatever they make the casings out of, it smells positively disgusting. Also, the case is thick. Like well over 2mm thick!

After all four sides, the lid is popped off… and we have…

……

Well that was anti-climactic.

It’s cells. In a box.

With what appears to be a generic “PCM” board glued to the underside of the lid. These boards are sold throughout the Inexpensive Chinese Battery Markets (YES, ANOTHER USE FOR “ICBM”!) to append to your own battery packs. In my adventures in EV design at the MIT Media Lab, I’ve had the joy? of using them for a few different custom packs.

They function primarily as output limiters – the 3 bars of metal soldered to the board are current sense shunts – and will turn off the output FETs if the voltage becomes too low or the discharge current becomes excessive. These are nominal 25 amps, peak 40 amps (according to manufacturer datasheet). They also usually perform low-current charge balancing if any of the cells become out of line by a certain amount – purely voltage-differential triggered. As far as I can tell, they also do not limit input current – presumably because the shunt is only set up as a single-sided measurement so the simple logic cannot handle negative voltages. As black-box devices to append to your battery for some semblance of failsafe behavior, they are more than adequate.

These boards, though, seem to have the FETs back-to-back – the Source leads of the row of devices goes to both the negative output terminal and the shunts. So it very well could be more sophisticated – I didn’t take the opportunity to disassemble the board, since it was plastic-welded in place and I accidentally stripped two of the screws trying to get them out.

So I guess it’s not just cells in a box…but that still doesn’t say anything about the “E” version. Now I kind of want to get one, but also don’t feel like dumping $100 on cells in a box.

(By the way, this is my favorite PCM board by far – the 100 amp model. It really shows the Chinese design paradigm of “CTRL-C CTRL-V” well.)

Well there it is. I do like this arrangement of cells, though – it’s almost like there’s enough space in the case, with the cells laying down and the BMS board in the otherwise wasted space of the lid, to add another row of paralleled cells for more capacity…

….oh.

i see what you did there.

There is a plastic insert that is conveniently one-cell in height. I wonder why?

There is a “10Ah” model which is oddly enough the exact same dimensions despite it having 50% more cells. Could it be that it’s just rows of 3 paralleled cells instead of 2, and the insert is not used?

Nah. Couldn’t be.

A better view of the board, for anyone who wants to do some armchair trace-guessing. In keeping with the tradition of posting FET datasheets, here’s the AOD4184, which is pretty reasonable I suppose since 6 devices are used in parallel to share the output current.

My assessment of these modules:

I’m going to guess that anything which looks superficially similar will use a similar setup inside (The Law of Chinese Packaging Inertia), just with different PCM boards. The rudimentary charge-balance and output protection these devices offer is reasonable if the battery is similar in voltage to the lead-acid systems they are designed to replace. Most common non-automotive SLA chargers do a rough constant-current constant-voltage charge profile anyway – the former is called  “fast charge” and the later “float charge”. With 4 cells being 12.8v nominal and 14.4v charging, that’s pretty damn close to a 12v SLA setup. 24v systems are similar, with the nominal voltage being 25.6 and peak voltage being 28.8v – most 24v SLAs charge at 28 volts.

Some of them come with a “2 maximum modules in series” specification and it’s clear why that’s the case. A “36v” system made of these would actually be 38.4v nominal and 43.6v charging – the deviation from SLA nominal voltages gets more severe with each added cell. There is also a potential for inter-module imbalance. As some 2.007 students have already found out, the modules themselves can take on different levels of charge and during heavy use, one will fall under its minimum voltage and shut off. It is exactly like the inter-cell balance problem, just more meta. The way around this would be to make sure the packs are at the same level of charge (e.g. full) before connecting them in a string. Real SLAs and Ni cells will all suffer from this problem too, so it’s not necessarily any worse. With the output protection circuitry, I think it is manageable, but over charging is still a concern. I haven’t tested to see if these generic modules shut off on overcharging yet.

In terms of Wh / $, it’s expensive but not terrible – on par with the DeWalt DC9360, but more general purpose. The K2 “EB” module sells for $140 and at 82 Wh that works out to be about $1.70 per Wh. The “10Ah” version is in fact a better deal overall at $1.40/Wh. For a 24v 7Ah battery system with decent plug-in-wall charger (6+ amps), it would run about $350 and charge in an hour. If you don’t mind waiting all day, then generic 24v scooter chargers are like $20. As a reference, two of these 8.4Ah Hobbyking LiFe packs would run $160 (That’s only $0.75 per Wh… damn you Hobbking), and a charger which can handle 8 cells starts at $45 or so. But you will need a 12v power supply which can handle the wattage (example – $40). So the hobby solution is certainly still the cheapest for those who can accept its lesser level of integration and can properly secure the battery from damage.

Perhaps most importantly, the modules do have a (very) tough shell and rectangular brick form factor. It’s way better than watching someone zip tie a soft-pouch pack to a bicycle frame. I did a little bit of further shopping on BatterySpace, and found that I could buy the parts for my own 8-cell, 12.8v 6.6Ah pack with a 30 amp PCM board for about $100. However, then I would spend several hours putting it together and then still not have a cute box in the end to put it in. So certainly I could buy the parts for much less, but the balance of the $140 price is made up in convenience.

Project Seedling Comes to an End

At the end of the semester, there will be games.

-me, a few months ago

And games there were. One of the most largest-scale, most time-consuming projects I’ve ever set out on has been quietly taking place behind the scenes, mostly unblogged and unpublicized. That project was the 2.007 Electric Vehicle special section. Recall, again, the ‘billboard’ from the beginning of the term:

I’m proud to say it essentially went off like that – minus the Segways, which I’m kind of glad did not happen anyway. The last update from my own “undergraduate victory garden” was in March, so whats happened since then?

By the end of March, all of the vehicles were pretty much mechanically together. The big “rolling frame” inspection and checkoff was at this point, and the week before was filled with a flurry of activity and skipped classes.

Above, the “Skull Skates”, presumably named because they would easily crack your skull on the road if given the chance, get power tested for the first time. It took quite a few design revisions to stuff the brick-sized battery, outrunner, and Hobbyking cartroller into skate form.

The 2-person go-kart effort was well on its way to completion at this point. It was christened “Melonkart” due to the combined budget of the team being enough to afford the C80/100 class “Melon” motor and a big enough Kelly Controller (the KBS48121 series) to feed it, and because our idiosyncratic naming method has rubbed off on the undergrads.

Team Melonkart has individual builders’ websites here and here.

Another one of the “leader pack” of students who worked quickly early on is this scooter of a very familiar construction technique (ahem….). Its innovation is the large rear fender brake, which isn’t a Razor style fender brake so much as an elaborate brake lever which actuates a stock scooter drum brake. The idea was to prevent excessive tire wear from braking.

“Crüscooter” has an excellent writeup at its own website.

The one-man go-kart ran into some budgeting problems, so appropriate cost cutting measures were made. This thing was massive, smooth, and handled either like a Cadillac or a battleship, depending on which student you asked. The joinery on the wood had some particularly detailed work put into it.

Around the 3/4 mark of term, I ran to Radioshack and practically cleaned them out of small switches and buttons – people needed logic power switches, lighting, precharge switches, etc. Some interesting “switch panels” came about as a result, with the wooden caddy-ship (called “Splinter Cell” officially) having a particularly nice panel complete with serial port access for the Kelly controller. Above, this student just carved the panel-mount switch holes directly into the sides of his aluminum U-channel. His design also had a  “lid” that also acted as a deck, meaning the insides were easily reachable for servicing. That came in very handy at the end during the debugging rush.

The above scooter, “Railscooter”, named due to an unfortunate encounter with the railroad tracks that divide MIT’s campus into north and south, has a writeup by its builder.

And then there is this. Overall one of the favorite vehicles of this term for everyone, a $40 Craigslisted red tricycle was converted into a 24 volt electric fun/death machine. The project was elegant in its simplicity – what mechanical work there was to be done was performed exactly as described and designed, and on time. The back of the original vehicle made a convenient electrical mounting deck, so minimal new attachments were necessary, and the wiring was very clean. If I had to pick a “datum” to Pugh Chart everyone this term, this would probably be it. And it’s also awesome. Officially named “Travis”, it was a big hit at the 2.007 main final competition with the audience.

More from the Unlimited Class (not really, just not a scooter or go-kart) is the electric tri-board. Due to the flat nature of this vehicle, a custom battery and charger solution was specified. Conveniently, the battery came from a disassembled hybrid vehicle pack that the Electric Vehicle Team had sitting around – it used 4 4-cell sticks of D sized NiMh cells for a 19.2v & 4.5Ah electrical system, like an A123 brick and a half. The shell on the bottom is custom vacuum formed.

While it hasn’t been updated yet, the triboard’s designer has her own website.

competition day

The competition this year had two components: a 50 meter drag race, which was fairly simple, and a time*energy “hillclimb” race up a 4-storey parking garage. YES, that thing we keep doing in the videos of everything has now been made an official practice. That took alot of explaining, by the way.

The morning of competition day, people making last minute fixes and changes… Even when the vehicle was technically due the week before, there’s always things to mess with!

The drag race was held in a relatively smoothly paved back alley under the Brain & Cognitive Sciences complex. The track was 50 meters in length, demarcated with white tape. We sort of went all-out hardcore with this event setup, getting 2-way radios for fast communication and even glowy traffic police wands to start people with.

Scooters averaged 9 to 11 seconds, and Melonkart hit an 8.28 second run – with all the vehicles having similar power levels, we weren’t expecting blazing times, really. Of course, the instructors weren’t just there to stand by and watch – Tinykart hit a 6 second run (due to its 100% more motor power than most of the class), and Chibikart somehow also managed an 8.26 second run.

We started becoming short-staffed in the garage and the lighting was much worse, so there are relatively few good pictures of people running up. The garage hillclimb race was a hell of alot of work to set up, but it was the most entertaining in the end, and it’s something which I haven’t seen done before, so I think it was worthwhile.

The biggest time consumer in setting up was appeasing the safety office. First of all, I would like to point out that any safety office which doesn’t bat an eye at “We want to close an entire MIT parking garage and race student-built go-karts up it” is pretty awesome. They only requested after inspection of the plans that we have some method of preventing people from faceplanting at 20mph into the narrow turn ends of the garage, which I found to be a reasonable request at any rate – while it is about 40 feet wide in the parking lanes, it narrows down to less than 20 feet at the turning ends, so if you miss an apex or lose traction, there is a concrete wall waiting.

We dismissed the idea of using a wall of haybales immediately – because it would have taken a literal semi trailer of haybales to line the problematic areas. Instead, we came up with a method of tensioning construction debris netting between steel cables and looping the cables around the outer guardrail of the garage itself. The cables were tensioned with large turnbuckles. In the end, the result was a bouncy net of happiness and totally not decapitation I swear to Robot Jesus guys.

Shane and I, along with some of the students from the section, spent about 15 hours on the Saturday before and about 2 hours the day of the event making and setting these suckers up. There were 7 of them total. By the end, we were pretty fast at it – one could come up in about 10 minutes and back down in roughly the same time.

The cool part about it is, now that there exists an official activity safety process for this kind of event, we could throw a go-kart race almost whenever ……we feel like setting those up again. I was pretty amazed at the willingness of MIT Parking and the Campus Police to just turn off an entire parking facility (Granted it was on a Sunday when there were like 10 cars ever anyway) so we could race things in it. Legitimately.

conclusion

What’s better than building a vehicle to troll confused campus tourists with? Having MIT pay you to teach others how to do the same. Good job to everybody, and thanks for the excellent “plaque” at the end:

Finally, my own thoughts and reflections on this semester.

The rules of the game were pretty simple. You had to use 1 to 3 of the A123 12V7 bricks in your design, or else if you do want a custom battery solution a charger must be included in the budget. You got one 8″ pneumatic tire for free, choice between one with a sprocket, one with a belt pulley, and a “front” wheel i.e. no  attached drive parts. You didn’t have to use it – this was a last minute pre-term rule change, because I was about to make everyone use an 8″ drive wheel. This was to encourage some more diversity in design (a point i will address later), and in the end, I’m glad it happened. There were just some seriously creative efforts that would have been hampered by a wheel requirement.

Major components, including motor, controller, frame materials, power transmission components, and any other vital parts (such as the deck, for the only skateboard-style project) must be under $300 not including shipping costs. Hardware and some small incidental metal stock was not included – I kind of set $10 as an accounting quantum for purchases. A few people bought long rods or large plates and then split them between vehicles. Students aggregated their orders with me and they were sent out every Monday and Wednesday – if you didn’t make the 9PM cutoff on one day, you had to wait until the next, and you had to accept that whatever you order (that wasn’t from McMaster…) was probably going to get here several days from now, so your order had to be well-planned. Overall, with all the overhead of shipping and consumables (wiring, hardware, etc.) included, the net cost per student ended up being more like $500. I’m generally content with this budgetary wise – if I had to buy every part of one of my random vehicles from scratch, it would cost several hundred dollars, no question. The caveat, of course, was that nobody had to pay for batteries thanks to the generous donation by A123Systems of something like 24 lithium ion SLA-replacement modules (ALM12V7 type) which would have run like 4 figures if we had to buy them or a similar product on the market.

One thing that impressed me was the diversity of designs that came up. While most people opted for scooters of some sort, there was a longboard, a set of inline skates (which ran on 12 volts each, using 2 batteries total), and an electric drive conversion of a little red tricycle. Yes, that actually happened. Three students went for go-karts, a team of two and one independent. Encouraging this kind of design diversity and letting people explore the same fundamental concepts using their own methodology is something I strongly support and encourage. It’s how I learned practically all of my engineering and design knowledge, and how I know so many different resources and some little-practiced skills among college students such as how to order things on McMaster and Digikey. Quite a few people this term learned how to pick parts of desired specification from huge catalogs, I think, and that is a skill which will serve them well.

Yet at the same time that I praise the ability of several particularly motivated students to go above and beyond and create very ingenious designs, I’m aware of the limitations of academia and the availability of resources, even at a place like MIT (which I make seem like a bottomless well of free parts and machining at times, admittedly). While financial limtiations and parts availability was not a concern for us this year, instructor time was. The format of the class right now, in my opinion, is not reproducible or sustainable without the massive involvement of one or more instructors who know the field in and out – who knows, for instance, that Kelly KBS controllers are unreliable if run at full motor current, or that R/C controllers require some special design considerations in the drivetrain and cannot be started from standstill, or random little tricks you need to pull with the motors’ Hall sensors to find the optimal running timing.

While it seems like that should be the optimal model for teaching, the fact is that I literally cannot do this again – the amount of time this section took up this time means I’m behind on finishing my required graduate level courses. It sucks, since I really do want to run this section again, but it is also of little value to MIT or other universities (like SUTD, for instance) if I am the only person who can do it. You might be able to construe it as job security, but I’m also not that into academia. So whatever this ends up being, it should be maximally teachable by anyone – the course content and procedurals must be robust enough to stand on their own.

Ultimately I think some of the design freedom has to be removed. It’s difficult to keep track of who was using what parts and what was different about each design. What I haven’t settled on is how to trim down some of the extremities of the design space of small vehicles without constricting too much the students who want to take the class and run with it. One issue that also came up was the final competitions – different vehicles required different safety considerations and the final way that I worked out with the safety office here to secure the venue against go-karts was perhaps overkill for the scooters. One-size-fits-all works both ways, and while one kind of educational experience doesn’t work for everyone the best, so that one experience cannot cover all of everyone’s desires simultaneously.

I do have some thoughts though. First and foremost, what is definitely not sustainable is letting everyone keep their vehicles at the end. It’s great when a class has takeaways, but the more random vehicles (of questionable reliability and safety even if they passed mechanical inspection at the end of term) that are released onto campus, the more chances there are of something bad happening. Not all the vehicles are street legal either, like the go-karts, so the grand mission of letting people build their own transportation around campus cannot even be fulfilled there. Ideally, in this case, the students would take away what they learned in the class and should they want to, use that knowledge and immediately turn it around and build a self transportation implement using their own resources.

Second, the progression of this section in the past few years has already been a game of selectively removing degrees of freedom from the curriculum while maximizing the student engagement. It’s almost like designing design itself….which, interestingly enough, is what the professor/research group I currently work for is focused on. Couldn’t tell with this whole “running entire design class” thing, right? Last year (2011, when I was not directly involved in running the EV section), the students had almost 100% control over their parts selection, including wheels and batteries. This was a boon for the one or two people who actually could take advantage of it, and who knew where to find stuff to use, but the rest got lost quickly lost and frustrated. The result was that we had only 3 people out of 5 complete anything at all, and of those, only two were reasonably well-executed. I decided to passively remove the wheel choice (“You could use this, but you don’t have to”), and that seemed to help some students get started in the right direction this year. Batteries, too, were a limitation, though not really premeditated.

So what other degree of freedom could I remove which would let the class retain as much of its design freedom as possible but also let it be standardized and accessible to those with less experience? Pursuant to the desire that perhaps not everyone should be flying around on their vehicles after the class is done, I’m looking to the likes of Tinykart and Chibikart for inspiration. We’ve kind of dubbed it the “1-inch extrusion frame” class of racing, and it’s appealing me for a few reasons.

First, it goes together quickly while still letting you retain alot of design freedom. It’s not like the standard scooter tactic of using an aluminum U-channel as the frame, for example, where even though you can put together the frame quickly, it still looks like a u-channel. The whole point of 80/20, or regular metal tubing applied in a similar fashion, is the ability to create prototypes of machines or test rigs or kitchen tables, etc. by dictating how the extrusions connect. You would have to design and fabricate the joining members and also figure out how to attach other components to the 80/20. It’s also almost infinitely adjustable – don’t like where the motor is? Loosen the slot nuts and slide it over.

Second, it creates a bit more level playing field for students. In the competitions this year, we clearly could not run scooters vs. go-karts – the levels of power and speed each of those needed was clearly different…and then you throw in the trike, the longboard, and the roller skates. It’s hard to get a historical trend going when the vehicles are so different that they cannot be classed together, if at all. It would also have the effect of standardizing the parts and materials a little – instead of placing like 6 orders to SpeedyMetals for various sizes of aluminum channel and plates, you would start out with a certain amount of 80/20 and a few big plates of aluminum to cut whatever you want using any process appropriate.

Third, it would ease up on the instructor burden. We would have a better idea at the outset what is needed for the class – I wouldn’t be placing a different order to Hobbyking every week during the term. All of the vehicles would require much of the same level of work to debug. This would ultimately involve phasing out some of the more hackish solutions like R/C controllers, but in my opinion that is for the better from a reliability perspective. It lets the students have more time, too – instead of waiting a week for their HK order to come, for instance, if we understood that there is a selection of motors which is the most popular, then it can be ‘buffered’ beforehand and people can start immediately. That, along with more scheduled checkins and demonstration deliverables, should prevent even more people from falling behind (I’ll say that the problem this year was much, much less than past years).

So to end this now thesis-length post, here’s my idea for a “2.00gokart”, as affectionately named by the students:

  • Teams of 2 – this year, the one-person go-kart effort ran into alot of time commitment issues, since it IS alot more mechanical work, while the 2-person kart team demonstrated good work sharing and planning skills. A kart being a more complex system, I think it justifies two person groups. Often times, people can bounce ideas back and forth between eachother, a chance they would not get, or at least wouldn’t go and seek outm if they were working alone.
  • You get 3 6-foot sticks of 1″ 80/20 extrusion, and a 24×24 aluminum plate in both 1/8″ and 1/4″ thicknesses. So, the main structure of the vehicle is extrusion with the plates being for joists, motor mounts, etc.
  • You may select up to 2 8″  pneumatic tire in chain drive, belt drive, or no-drive for free, but you are not required to use them (other wheels must be bought in the budget). This means some amount of spec’ing and shopping has to be done for at least one other wheel unless the design is very….special.
  • You may use 1 to 3 A123 12V7 modules for batteries. Going to 4, in my opinion, opens up a very clear optimal solution since using 2 in series and 2 in parallel gives you the highest watt hour count onboard. That’s no fun.
  • You have a choice between several different motors, DC and brushless, of various makes and models and parameters. A range of controllers will also be available. Part of the lab assignments would be to pick a motor and controller and justify your drivetrain design, just as it is now.
  • A $150 budget for drivetrain parts, special hardware, etc. will be made available, and must be justified/recorded, as it is now. Basically, taking out the value of a good Kelly Controller and HK outrunner with a McMaster order of frame materials and scooter parts dealer order of wheels and tires, etc. from the $300 budget.
  • The vehicle must be “kart” style, sit down, or otherwise statically stable. I’m thinking right now of a “casterscooter” with two inline wheels, one driving, and two little casters on the sides so it doesn’t tip. This is a horrific idea, but is one way to abuse the rule for sure!
  • The frame may not exceed 30 x 36″ (just an idea for a size range – most of the karts are about this big)

I totally think this is doable. The only question is, will I have time to do it again?

This is now the longest post I’ve ever made on this site, I think. What am I forgetting?

Oh right, the video!